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Post by swanarcadian on Jan 13, 2021 21:44:21 GMT
On 4 April 1938, there was a reference to a council named "Bradwell" in the Sheffield Independent. I can find no reference online to this anywhere other than the BNA, or whether it was an urban or rural district council, or indeed a parish council. Perhaps it was known officially by another name.
There were 2 seats to fill, and the election result given was:
Benjamin Shirt 415
Ernest Elliott 388
Leonard Coupland 324
Can anyone shed any light over this?
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Post by davidjeffery on Jan 14, 2021 9:03:12 GMT
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Post by David J. Glanfield on Jan 14, 2021 10:02:06 GMT
On 4 April 1938, there was a reference to a council named " Bradwell" in the Sheffield Independent. I can find no reference online to this anywhere other than the BNA, or whether it was an urban or rural district council, or indeed a parish council. Perhaps it was known officially by another name. There were 2 seats to fill, and the election result given was: Benjamin Shirt 415 Ernest Elliott 388 Leonard Coupland 324 Can anyone shed any light over this? Benjamin Shirt, draper (!!!) of Eyam was a candidate for Bakewell RDC in 1911:- www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0000250/19110310/220/0012 |
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Post by David J. Glanfield on Jan 14, 2021 10:38:17 GMT
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Post by swanarcadian on Jan 15, 2021 17:58:01 GMT
Thank you all for the replies to this thread and the private messages. Bakewell RDC and Chapel en le Frith RDC have been suggested. From what David J. Glanfield says, it's a no brainer, but it was very close to the boundary between the two districts. |
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Post by swanarcadian on Jan 17, 2021 11:24:28 GMT
This is what I wrote to create the Pontefract RDC thread, using Wikipedia as a guide:
The Yorkshire Post from 4 April 1938 gives an election result for Pontefract RDC (for the Brotherton parish), so I'm wondering what date it was actually absorbed into those other districts?
I have a feeling the Great Amalgamation of 1937 will throw up quite a few technical questions; I've been working backwards and am nearly there.
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Post by David J. Glanfield on Jan 17, 2021 12:40:34 GMT
This is what I wrote to create the Pontefract RDC thread, using Wikipedia as a guide: The Yorkshire Post from 4 April 1938 gives an election result for Pontefract RDC (for the Brotherton parish), so I'm wondering what date it was actually absorbed into those other districts? I have a feeling the Great Amalgamation of 1937 will throw up quite a few technical questions; I've been working backwards and am nearly there. Puzzling because:- www.visionofbritain.org.uk/unit/10074319#tab02I have checked the guide and a date of 1 April 1938 is given. Some parishes were removed from the old Pontefract RDC in 1937. Could be a misprint by the Yorkshire Post. |
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Post by swanarcadian on Jan 17, 2021 12:49:13 GMT
Thanks David. I have a feeling it should have said Osgoldcross - in fact one press report printed Osgoldcross, formerly Pontefract in the 1939 results...
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Post by swanarcadian on Apr 28, 2021 17:02:30 GMT
The Yorkshire Post of 5 March 1937 makes reference to a council named Braithwell which returned 5 councillors that year. I presume this would have been a parish council rather than a UDC? It looks like election results different tiers of councils were just lumped together in this article I'm looking at. I'm aware Braithwaite was a parish of Doncaster RDC.
EDIT: Ditto a council called Denaby. Would that have been a parish council returning 5 members in 1937? I'm aware Denaby was a ward of Conisbrough UDC.
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Post by swanarcadian on Apr 28, 2021 20:25:57 GMT
I have a feeling the Great Amalgamation of 1937 will throw up quite a few technical questions; I've been working backwards and am nearly there. Well, my hunch was right. The same article I refer to in my post above also mentions " Hatfield Rural". Perhaps this was a parish council too but it had a number of wards: Hatfield ward, Hatfield Woodhouse, Dunscroft, Dunsville, Fishlake and Sykehouse. The only Hatfield RDC I've heard of was the one in Hertfordshire, which seems highly unlikely to have appeared in a Yorkshire newspaper. Can anyone shed any light on this? |
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Post by swanarcadian on Apr 29, 2021 20:06:08 GMT
I've got another problem with this article above mentioned. There was a council named Rotherham but I don't know if it's the Rural District or the County Borough. If I had to guess, it would be the former - although we have no results for it posted on here yet.
The wards/parishes were Aston-cum-Aughton, Bramley, Brampton Bierlow, Brinsworth, Catcliffe, Dalton, Hooton Roberts, Hooton Levitt, Orgreave, Ravenfield, Thryberg, Thurcroft, Ulley, Wentworth, Whiston, Wickersley and Treeton.
Can anyone confirm what sort of council this was (in 1937)?
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Post by David J. Glanfield on Apr 29, 2021 20:12:16 GMT
I have a feeling the Great Amalgamation of 1937 will throw up quite a few technical questions; I've been working backwards and am nearly there. Well, my hunch was right. The same article I refer to in my post above also mentions " Hatfield Rural". Perhaps this was a parish council too but it had a number of wards: Hatfield ward, Hatfield Woodhouse, Dunscroft, Dunsville, Fishlake and Sykehouse. The only Hatfield RDC I've heard of was the one in Hertfordshire, which seems highly unlikely to have appeared in a Yorkshire newspaper. Can anyone shed any light on this? There's a Hatfield near Doncaster. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hatfield,_South_Yorkshire |
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Post by swanarcadian on Apr 29, 2021 20:15:01 GMT
Well, my hunch was right. The same article I refer to in my post above also mentions " Hatfield Rural". Perhaps this was a parish council too but it had a number of wards: Hatfield ward, Hatfield Woodhouse, Dunscroft, Dunsville, Fishlake and Sykehouse. The only Hatfield RDC I've heard of was the one in Hertfordshire, which seems highly unlikely to have appeared in a Yorkshire newspaper. Can anyone shed any light on this? There's a Hatfield near Doncaster. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hatfield,_South_Yorkshire Yep, I was just wondering if it was a parish council rather than a rural district. |
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Post by David J. Glanfield on Apr 29, 2021 20:16:14 GMT
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Post by David J. Glanfield on Apr 29, 2021 20:18:33 GMT
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Post by David J. Glanfield on Apr 29, 2021 20:20:20 GMT
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Post by David J. Glanfield on Apr 29, 2021 20:32:11 GMT
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Post by swanarcadian on Apr 29, 2021 20:35:03 GMT
Thank you David. The Yorkshire Post is an excellent resource but they didn't do a great job of categorizing councils by type in their 1937 results article - not an ideal year for confusion given all the changes that were made.
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Post by swanarcadian on Apr 29, 2021 20:43:47 GMT
Thanks again, that second link seems to categorize them well. I feel rather befuddled, so think I'll break off for tonight and start afresh tomorrow! |
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Post by davidjeffery on Apr 14, 2022 8:10:18 GMT
Hello everyone! I was wondering if anyone had any advice on how rural district councils operated, with regard to parishes.
I'm interested in Merseyside's election results, and while everything is pretty simple for the other units of local government, I keep getting stumped by RDCs and the role parishes play within them.
For instance, in Whiston RDC, there is the civil parish of Knowsley, which is the unit reported in the census too. However, for 1971 I find results for Knowsley North, West and East and no results for just 'Knowsley' - am I right in assuming these cllrs will be returned to Whiston RDC, as councillors for the ward of Knowsley North in the parish of Knowsley?
Also, how often were elections to RDCs? I know the results probably aren't often reported because they're uncontested, but a confirmed figure would be good.
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Post by David J. Glanfield on Apr 14, 2022 13:21:29 GMT
Hello everyone! I was wondering if anyone had any advice on how rural district councils operated, with regard to parishes. I'm interested in Merseyside's election results, and while everything is pretty simple for the other units of local government, I keep getting stumped by RDCs and the role parishes play within them. For instance, in Whiston RDC, there is the civil parish of Knowsley, which is the unit reported in the census too. However, for 1971 I find results for Knowsley North, West and East and no results for just 'Knowsley' - am I right in assuming these cllrs will be returned to Whiston RDC, as councillors for the ward of Knowsley North in the parish of Knowsley? Also, how often were elections to RDCs? I know the results probably aren't often reported because they're uncontested, but a confirmed figure would be good. RDC elections could be held every three years or by thirds (but that could be complicated because not every ward/parish returned three councillors). I would guess that Whiston RDC held annual elections whereas Knowsley PC polled every three years. 1969 link about a new ward (both authorities) for Cantril Farm:- www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0000271/19690130/130/00091972 link mentions 16 members of the PC...two wards of eight councillors apiece? www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0000271/19721222/178/0010The MMCC divisions only mention parishes:- www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/BL/0000271/19730413/01027/0005(The original proposals were slighty different:-  ). |
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